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Old 27-02-09, 08:21 AM
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Hello,

I photographed this bird of prey today at the Wetlands Centre in Llanelli South Wales.

Not the best of pictures I know, but they don't hang around for long do they!

Can someone confirm my guess that it's a female kestrel please.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 27-02-09, 10:43 AM
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Its a female kestrel. An immature male would look very similar in it's first year of plumage but the width of that particular bird at the shoulder indicates its definitely a female. The males are smaller as in most birds of prey and they have the slate grey head. You're very lucky to get that close to a wild bird to photograph it, they're normally very wary of people.

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Here's some more information about National Wetland Centre Llanelli Wales.

Stretching over 450 acres on the Burry Inlet, it's a magnificent mosaic of lakes, pools and lagoons is home to countless wild species as diverse as dragonflies and Little Egrets. Plus over 600 of some of the world’s most spectacular ducks, geese, swans and flamingos, many so tame they feed from the hand.

WWT National Wetland Centre Wales
Llwynhendy, Llanelli
Carmarthenshire
SA14 9SH

http://www.wwt.org.uk/centre/120/nat...tre_wales.html
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Many thanks for the replies and the confirmation.
Whilst on the subject of WWT, on the same day I also obtained the attached picture of a Spoonbill which has over wintered at the centre.
I was told that this is a very unusual occurrence. A beautiful bird that I was able to observe for some time.
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Many thanks for the replies and the confirmation.
Whilst on the subject of WWT, on the same day I also obtained the attached picture of a Spoonbill which has over wintered at the centre.
I was told that this is a very unusual occurrence. A beautiful bird that I was able to observe for some time.
Hi Geoff

Nice image, Spoonbills are lovely birds.

Below is an RSPB press release from September 2008 with important information on Spoonbills in UK.

A pair of spoonbills have successfully bred for the first time in Scotland and for only the second time in the UK in the last four centuries.

A pair of these elegant birds - named for their bizarre spatula-like bills - have raised and fledged three chicks on Kirkcudbright Bay in Dumfries and Galloway.

It is only the second time the species has bred in the UK after a pair nested successfully in 1998. This was the first successful UK breeding attempt for 330 years.

A striking sight
The birds were discovered by Keith Kirk, a countryside ranger for Dumfries and Galloway Council, after a tip-off from local contact Gary McKie, who runs wildlife watching boat trips into the bay and up the River Dee.

With pure white plumage, lanky dark legs and their long, bizarre-shaped bills, the birds make a rare and arresting sight on the mudflats and marshes of British wetlands and lagoons. They use the bill to feed - sweeping it back and forth with the bill slightly open, it filters out small invertebrates, crustaceans, amphibians and small fish disturbed from the sediment by vigorous paddling of their feet.

There are normally about 75 records of the species in the UK a year, but these are usually non-breeding birds and confined to coastal sites in north west and south west England, and East Anglia. They can nest on the ground or in trees, and tend to stay close to related species including herons and egrets.

Brilliant news
Keith Kirk said: 'There was one adult bird in early June, then another joined it in the couple of weeks following that. Now they have been seen with three juveniles. We have taken a boat out and watched them, and two of youngsters were coming in behind the adults, clattering their bills and begging to be fed, and one of the adults appeared to turn round and give it a feed. We haven't seen the nest, as it's a very secluded and inaccessible area, but with the way they were behaving I'm sure this is a successful breeding attempt, which is brilliant news for us.'

'It's absolutely fantastic that they've now managed to succeed and have produced three healthy chicks that have fledged.'
He added: 'In the past Dumfries and Galloway has probably not been everyone's first thought for wildlife watching in Scotland, but this just goes to show what an amazing spectacle is on offer here. We haven't got capercaillie, ptarmigan or crested tit, but pretty much everything else Scotland has to offer in terms of great wildlife is all here'.

Chris Rollie, RSPB Scotland's area manager for Dumfries and Galloway, said: 'A pair of spoonbills attempted to nest at our Mersehead reserve about 20 miles east down the Solway coast in 2000, but they didn't produce any eggs, so it's absolutely fantastic that they've now managed to succeed and have produced three healthy chicks that have fledged.

'It is quite likely that this pair's breeding success has been helped by the fact that spoonbills are listed on Annex 1 of the Birds Directive, giving them and their wetland habitats extra protection. This has probably been a factor in allowing the nearest large colony in Holland to expand in both its size and range, and we are now seeing the first benefits of this in Scotland. It's just superb news.'

Fingers crossed for a return
It is likely that, after moving round Dumfries and Galloway, the birds will then migrate south, perhaps back to Holland or southern Europe and north Africa, where they will spend the winter before hopefully returning back to Kirkcudbright to breed again next year.

Before their extinction in the UK, nearly 350 years ago, spoonbills were reasonably widespread in southern England and Wales.

Hope this is of interest

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Hi John,
Thanks very much for the very interesting information.
I'd love to have seen the family!
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Thanks for the post Geoff.

That turned out really interesting and I think the Spoonbill thread has some mileage.

I've created a post to discuss Spoonbills in the UK (I don't know about Ireland?).

http://85.92.86.213/~birdingu/forum/...read.php?t=152
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Thanks for that Neil. I'll be interested to see how it progresses.
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Its a female kestrel. An immature male would look very similar in it's first year of plumage but the width of that particular bird at the shoulder indicates its definitely a female. The males are smaller as in most birds of prey and they have the slate grey head. You're very lucky to get that close to a wild bird to photograph it, they're normally very wary of people.

Chris C.
Some Kestrels can be quite aproachable, the female in image below allowed me to photograph it and walk away leaving it still perched on the wire even though I was always in full view. I have had similar experiences at other sites, for the most part they are wary but some seem to become acustomed to human presence



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