Am I right?

[Maggie28]

Or am I wrong?

House Martin? The one Alan thought I had not seen and was convinced I saw a Swallow.

[JONNY74]

Looks like he should have gone to specsavers

[PeterB]

Looks like one to me but I reckon there is evidence of the neck band there. An outside chance it might be a Sand Martin.?!?

Is there another distinguishing feature?

Alan, even I can tell a Swallow from a Martin.

[alanjns]

Ere....steady on

First time I've seen the pic and at the time we were trying to get a pic of Swallows....cheek

[alanjns]

I reckon it's a juvy House - that can have a faint neck band

[Dave Appleton]

I agree - House Martin for me. Sand Martin would show a broader brown breast band and the dark cap would probably look browner.

[Maggie28]

I showed you the pic in the camera and you were still convinced it wasn't a House Martin

Thanks for the ID guys. I think the outline you see is just a faint shadow.

[alanjns]

Originally Posted by PeterB

Looks like one to me but I reckon there is evidence of the neck band there. An outside chance it might be a Sand Martin.?!?

Is there another distinguishing feature?

Alan, even I can tell a Swallow from a Martin.

Rest assured Peter - I can too