OWL at last maybe?

[Maggie28]

Do you reckon it's an owl?

There were two of them, exactly the same.
I was in my car on Govan Road when I saw them coming from the old Govan docks area flying over the housing scheme near Govan Town hall, and by the time I could stop and take a pic, this was all I got.
It appears to have some sort of rodent in it's beak.

[MIKE THROWER]

Roller, a type or domesticated/pigeon breed.

[Maggie28]

Didn't see them rolling and didn't seem to fly like them either. Not meaning the rolling action, the actual flying, but what a weird bird

Can I add them to my bird list?

What the heck is in it's mouth then. Don't think they would eat rodents?

And why capital letters Mike? I'm not deaf.

[Dave Appleton]

I don't think it would eat rodents either, but I don't think you can tell from this image what's in the beak. Sadly though, I agree with Mike that this is a domestic dove of some kind and not an Owl... next time!

Typically Owls would carry prey in their talons (though I'm not sure they would never carry it in their bill), but apart from the fact that it seems all white (which isn't the case for any of the UK owls) and doesn't seem to be the right shape for an owl, it has thin pink unfeathered legs which none of the owls have.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by Maggie28

Didn't see them rolling and didn't seem to fly like them either. Not meaning the rolling action, the actual flying, but what a weird bird

Can I add them to my bird list?

What the heck is in it's mouth then. Don't think they would eat rodents?

And why capital letters Mike? I'm not deaf.

Where exactly are the capital letters?

Nobody suggested you were deaf Maggie, so whats the problem.

[Maggie28]

Originally Posted by Dennis

Where exactly are the capital letters?

Nobody suggested you were deaf Maggie, so whats the problem.

You can see Mike has edited his post, to small letters. And what's your problem Dennis?
You Mikes mother or something? I'm sure Mike can speak for himself.
It is common knowledge that by using capital letters on forums and sucjh like is a form of shouting. Hence my remark of not being deaf.

I can read fine, I don't need it printed in capital letters. That's my problem. Hope that satisfies your question even though it was not directed at you and nothing to do with you.

Dave/Mike. Not disputing the fact they are Roller Doves, just I explained I was in a moving car and what is an unusual bird/s for me to see seemed like owls from my vantage point which they weren't.
It looks like a small rodent or something simiilar in it's beak and the other bird followed it around like a new fledging would to beg for food. That's all. Could be a clump of fuzzy stuff for nesting material?

Thanks for responses.

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by Maggie28

You can see Mike has edited his post, to small letters. And what's your problem Dennis?
You Mikes mother or something? I'm sure Mike can speak for himself.
It is common knowledge that by using capital letters on forums and sucjh like is a form of shouting. Hence my remark of not being deaf.

I can read fine, I don't need it printed in capital letters. That's my problem. Hope that satisfies your question even though it was not directed at you and nothing to do with you.

Dave/Mike. Not disputing the fact they are Roller Doves, just I explained I was in a moving car and what is an unusual bird/s for me to see seemed like owls from my vantage point which they weren't.
It looks like a small rodent or something simiilar in it's beak and the other bird followed it around like a new fledging would to beg for food. That's all. Could be a clump of fuzzy stuff for nesting material?

Thanks for responses.

Firstly, I cant see anything to suggest that Mike has edited the post. His profile name is in capitals in case you hadn't noticed, so does that mean he done this just in case we are all deaf?

Secondly, i'm not the one with a problem here. You are the one coming on throwing accusations around about people being deaf because your mongrel pigeon wasn't what you hoped it was. I merely asked question and you just answered it for me with your so called reply.

And for your information Maggie, even you can figure out that it's technically impossible for Mike to be my mother. He is more than capable of speaking for himself I can assure you!

And lastly, since when has it been common knowledge that using capital letters on a forum had become a method of shouting? I am a member of quite a few bird forums and a lot of people write in capitals, none of which are accused of shouting.

[RoyW__]

When posts have been edited the fact that this has taken place, and the time, is shown at the bottom of the post.
It is also common for use of capitals to be considered shouting (although some people may simple use capitalsto highlight specific words - use of underlining and/or bold lettering could also be viewed as shouting). As for Mikes username being 'shouted', I believe that that's been mentioned (light heartedly) before.
But anyway, does any of it really mattter?


As far as the dove goes, I think that its not actually carrying anything, and that the apparent bulge is an enlarged neck (as seen in Pouter Pigeons).

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by RoyW__

When posts have been edited the fact that this has taken place, and the time, is shown at the bottom of the post.
It is also common for use of capitals to be considered shouting (although some people may simple use capitalsto highlight specific words - use of underlining and/or bold lettering could also be viewed as shouting). As for Mikes username being 'shouted', I believe that that's been mentioned (light heartedly) before.
But anyway, does any of it really mattter?


As far as the dove goes, I think that its not actually carrying anything, and that the apparent bulge is an enlarged neck (as seen in Pouter Pigeons).

You are absolutely right Roy, none of it matters. Like I said though, I asked a question and got that reply and i'm sure if it were you, you would also have something to say.

[Maggie28]

Roy: I accept cap letters are used in stressing things which is acceptable but in Mikes case it was "shouting" or "rude". If it wasn't he wouldn't have edited it and a gentleman would have apologised or explain why he capitilised it?

I don't think either of you saw origional post so you can't say can you. Don't mean that to be cheeky just people should not comment if they didn't see it.
I understand you trying to diffuse the situation. That's fine by me.


The birds indeed was Pouters so Mike was wrong again. OK, bit hard to tell with the photo but I don't always take mike's word alone for the id's as he does get it wrong with others from time to time. No ones perfect

Dennis: You butted in without knowing the facts first and as the origional question was not directed at you, why did you feel you needed to butt in like a mother hen protecting her birding buddy? But that's ok. I'd rather you ignore me and not respond as it will only lead to you getting more annoyed.
You made a fool of yourself by doing so and feel that being rude and abusive is saving you face. Too late. You made an erse of yourself so let it go......

"your mongrel pigeons". LOL. Didn't even know these type pigeons existed before so how are they my mongrel pigeons. Some bird lover you are eh. Just because they are not eagles or ospreys or whatever like, they are mongrel birds to you. I feel sorry for you, I really do.

Anyone looking in, just remember that your bird will probably be just a mongrel to Dennis.

I got annoyed because you butted in to something that was not of your concern and butted in without knowing the facts.
The question was not directed at you also, if you spent more time on other forums, then maybe you would know about such things as using capital letters or even text speak is a no no.
Broaden your horizons Dennis to other forums outwith birding and try using text or cap letters.
Capital letters being used in such a way that you did not see, is considered shouting.

Or when responding, you should have made it clear by stating "sorry for butting in here........".That would have been acceptable. You just directly blurted out "What's your prblem"? No by or leave or anything so you had the problem. Not me.
But why not take it up with Mike who is probably enjoying what he started and laughing at you for getting your knickers in a twist.

I am starting another new job involving a bit of travelling so wont be around for a while. Just thought I would post that incase anyone thinks I am offski due to you.