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Old 28-06-16, 05:13 PM
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Default Odd bird in Swalecliffe Kent

A large flock of starlings are regular visitors to our garden. Included in this flock is one bird we have never seen before

It is the colour of a young starling
The body is slighty longer and slimmer than a starling
It has white areas on the end of its tail approx 1in long
The tail is longer than a starling and splits into 2 with rounded ends Think rounded 'w'
The wings have white areas on the end of the flight feathers, again about 1in long
When landing the wing/tail shape is very like a collared dove
The beak is similar to that of a blackbird, but brown

The starlings seem to accept it quite happily. We have seen 2 of these birds on occasion but not recently

First post so please be gentle
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Old 28-06-16, 10:40 PM
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Is there any chance of getting a picture? I'm intrigued by the description but I can't make it fit any species I can think of. Even a really bad picture can normally be id'd, or at least allow a guess.
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Old 29-06-16, 07:12 PM
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Although it didn't come to mind immediately, I nearly ran over a very wet Jay in the rain on my way back from the supermarket; it took me a moment to realise what it was as it looked darker and slimmer than they normally do because it was wet.

Could your bird be a Jay?
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Old 30-06-16, 04:42 PM
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I will try for a photo, could take some time

We had jays in Barnehurst, never seen one here. I remember them as being bigger and more colourful and they only ever came out in the wet. Where they went when it was dry was one of life's little mysteries

I suspect they would not spend their time hanging from a birdfeeder with a bunch of starlings
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Sorry for being late to the party - don't come here often nowadays...

The description of white at the end of the flight feathers makes me wonder if the white is due to leucism rather than being a normal plumage feature. Most birds with white in the wings don't have the white at the tips of the wings, whereas pigment deficiency often effects the extremities. If that's so (and that could also explain the white on the tail) then given your comparison with Collared Dove I wonder if it might be a feral pigeon? Like these ones for example (they are very variable so not necessarily exactly the same as these).
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Old 27-09-16, 05:48 PM
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I think Dave may be right on this, but a picture would be good, intriguing.
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