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Old 06-12-17, 08:08 AM
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Black throated diver in eclipse plumage
Hmm - doesn't have much of a white flank patch, but the forehead does look peaked and the bill is a bit strong, so you might well be correct. Any other photos?
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Hmm. It's been a long time since a bird provoked such discussion on the forum.

For me the bill looks wrong for Black-throated, and right for Red-throated; upturned lower mandible rather than the dagger-like bill of the B-t. At least we can be sure it's not Great Northern or Pacific...

But I make no claims to any great expertise so...

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Only one more picture but it's not the best, I had my three year old daughter with me and she just loves water, say no more
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Hmm. It's been a long time since a bird provoked such discussion on the forum.

For me the bill looks wrong for Black-throated, and right for Red-throated; upturned lower mandible rather than the dagger-like bill of the B-t. At least we can be sure it's not Great Northern or Pacific...

But I make no claims to any great expertise so...

Tony
How are we ruling out Pacific?
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I'm not bad at bird I'd but I only wish I took a bit more attention to what I where looking at now.it was really strange because the bird was close to me for about 5mins. I only wish I took more photos
Thanks for all your replies
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...but the upturned bill, pale underparts and mottled back suggest Red-throated Diver to me.
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Looks like a juvenile with the smudgy cheeks and neck.
Mick
I agree with both above quotes - the second bird is a juvenile Red-throated Diver.
The bill shape and upper part patterning rule out other diver species.
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I'm going to take that as closure, thanks for all your responses.
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Identifying winter divers | BTO - British Trust for Ornithology
https://www.bto.org/about-birds/bird...-winter-divers

bird discussion's are never closed. that's how we all learn. I will stick with BT D
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Old 13-12-17, 10:11 PM
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Identifying winter divers | BTO - British Trust for Ornithology
https://www.bto.org/about-birds/bird...-winter-divers

bird discussion's are never closed. that's how we all learn. I will stick with BT D
Thanks for the link, which for me confirms RT D. The vid describes the RT as about the size of a Goosander and the BT as about the size of a Shag; the original poster says this bird was the size of a large Coot. For me, that's QED, but as you so rightly
say, bird discussions are never closed and I'm happy to agree to differ.

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